Expert Opinions

We got back from our whirlwind trip to see the appendix cancer specialists last night. From St. Louis –> New York –> Houston –> St. Louis in 7 days. We were pretty exhausted yesterday, so I went to bed at 10pm, Andy stayed up and smoked a half pack of cigarettes. Gross. (Don’t EVEN get me started, ughhhh)

I digress. I am happy to report that the trip was a complete success! We did indeed get to spend some “vacation” time together, it wasnt all doctors visits and cancer talk. New York was what I was looking most forward to, but Houston was the part Andy was most excited about. My husband has family in Houston and we dont get to see them very often, so when they offered to have us stay with them while we were there, we happily accepted.

We got to New York on a Wednesday evening. Our flight was delayed a bit so we got in a bit later than we wanted, but we still had enough time to grab a .99ยข slice of pizza (something my husband really wanted to do, lol) and head to Times Square. This was Andy’s first time in NY and I really wanted to show him the sights! As you can imagine, me being Type A AF, I am a planner. If this trip had been last year, I would have had almost every second of it planned! I would have a back-up plan for any plan that didn’t pan out and I would constantly keeping track of time to make sure we were on point. But this was different. Mind you, I still needed to plan something, but I didn’t want to be over planned because I wasn’t sure how the travel and all the walking would affect my husband’s energy level. But you must know; I have a problem with last minute change and failed expectations. Something that happens to me when I plan things, is that I get disappointed when the thing I plan doesnt work out, or something happens and we miss it, or something goes wrong. I try to be flexible, honestly, I do try! I give myself pep talks and tell myself that everything will be fine if something falls through … but it just effects me negatively no matter what I do. I didn’t want this to be the case in NY, so I tried to limit my planning, but the only 2 things I planned ended up falling on the same day — and that ended up being too much. I had a fun architecture tour planned in this awesome 1920’s style yacht on the Hudson River that was scheduled at 2pm. Then, I wanted to do a nice dinner. One nice, fancy, expensive dinner in New York City, and the only reservation they had avail was at 5:30pm the same day as the architecture tour. So I booked it. I REALLY wanted to do it and since the tour was only 1.5 hours, I was sure we’d have plenty of time! I was wrong. On the way back from the architecture tour, I wanted to make a quick pit stop at the 9/11 Memorial. It was one of the most impactful things I had ever seen and I wanted to share that with Andy. But my husband wanted to head back to the hotel to rest a bit before dinner, and I pushed him too far by forcing him into sightseeing. We got back to the hotel with only 5 mins to get ready for our fancy, expensive dinner. I was fine, luckily, I was pretty much ready except for my quick change of clothes, but Andy was exhausted even before we got back to the hotel. He was almost falling asleep at dinner, and me? I wanted to go out for a night on the town! I was dressed up all cute and had curls in my hair and I was in New York! I wanted to have a fun night!

Nope, not in the cards.

When I suggested to my husband that we head to the bar area of the restaurant after dinner for a few more drinks, he declined. It was 7pm. I was a bit perturbed even though I knew he was exhausted, even though I knew he was tired, even though I knew he was at the end of his rope. I still wanted to have fun. For me, this night was not over! I didn’t want it to be over. But we went back to the hotel anyway, he laid in bed, I changed out of my fancy dress and decided I was going to go back out. We had passed an outdoor bar gazebo thing on our way back to the hotel so I decided I was going to go there (by myself) and just sit and have a glass (or 3) of wine. So I did. I sat there fuming because of the situation. I was pissed off at cancer. I was pissed off that this had happened to my husband and wiped the person who he used to be out of existence. I wasnt asking for much, just a night out with the man I love, and cancer took that away from me. Fuck cancer.

The next day we met with the oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering. This was the moment I had been waiting for! What would she say? What would she suggest? What more in-depth and useful information could she offer to us? After all, she WAS the expert in this specialty area! The appendix cancer specialist whom I researched and sought out especially for her guidance. So, what did she say? “12 rounds, FOLFOX chemotherapy, with follow up CT scans every 3-6 months” … and I was a bit dumbfounded. She literally, almost word for word, echoed what our team in St. Louis had already recommended. No additional insight, no useful tidbits that could help us unearth new information, no new medically advanced scanning equipment which could offer us a more proactive view into tumor growth, no new treatments, no new advice, no new conversation starters, just the same thing we had already heard. The. Same. Thing.

It was a bit anticlimactic.

So when we got to MD Anderson in Houston and spoke with the expert there and heard the exact same thing, I mean, I guess the confirmation is a good thing? But I don’t know. I suppose it’s better than the alternative, right? I mean, what if we had heard 3 opposite opinions and were offered 3 different courses for treatment — and then it would’ve been up to US to choose the one we wanted! Yikes! I mean, that would have been a nightmare! So this is good.

So here we sit now. The team at MD Anderson did not offer us a consultative option, which means that if we wanted them to provide anything other than a second opinion, we’d have to go through them and only them. The oncologist at Sloan Kettering was much more willing to work with our St. Louis team to check over Andy’s scans and suggest additional treatment options if this cancer returned. She will provide her expertise and consult with our boots on the ground team here, so that is who we’ll be using moving forward. Now its just all about getting Andy scheduled for all the pre-chemo stuff that needs to be done. He needs updated blood work to check his CEA and tumor markers (CA19-9 and CA125) and he needs a new CT scan to provide a baseline for future scans to check against for regrowth of the tumors. He needs to get the chemo port installed which is an outpatient surgical procedure. Then we need to schedule his first chemotherapy cycle. Oh man. Typing that just gave me chills. I don’t want him to have to go through this, but all the experts said that there is a very good chance that this is in his bloodstream and the systemic chemo should wipe it out. But he will never be “cured” of this. The best we can hope for is NED (No Evidence of Disease.) Sometimes people go decades being NED where it comes back after 15 or 20 years. Point is, this is never something we’ll be rid of. It will always be in his body, it will always be something I’ll worry about.

But for now, at least we have a very, Very, VERY clear path forward and I am hopeful that all my worrying will be for nothing because Andy will push through chemo, like he did with the surgery, with very little side effects and a quick recovery period! No, he’s not 100% yet, hell, he’s only 7 weeks post-op at this point! But he’s definitely 80-85% and while I may want him to be back at 100%, I know that is ridiculous. We’ll get through the next 6 months of chemo and we’ll hopefully be done with this! I hope this blog comes to a quick close ๐Ÿ™‚

In A Holding Pattern

This week brought some new information. And more waiting. Ughhh, lol We met with the oncologist last week and I requested she test for tumor markers CA125 and CA19-9, which I’ve learned, through my research, are used frequently alongside the CEA number and PCI. Tho not really as predictive in terms of overall survival as the CEA (which seems to be the top dog in prediction stats) it will still give us something to measure. And since I’ve learned that this measurement concept is not really something people are familiar with or take seriously in the cancer world (WTF is right!) I’m going my own way with this one and collecting all data points I can get my hands on.

We got the results back (and a recap of current state):

  • CEA: 3.2 (within normal range, tho 3.0 and below is considered completely normal) Looking for 6 or below
  • CA19-9: 14 (within normal range) Looking for 37 or below
  • CA125: 57.8 (high) Looking for 30 or below
  • PCI number: 8 (moderate) Looking for 6 or below
  • CC score: 0, which is best case scenario

So again, I have to remind myself that the tumor markers are not really predictive in any way, they are just numbers to track. But the fact that one is almost double what it should be, that makes me nervous. Actually, now looking at the overall picture here, its not awful, but it gives me pause. What keeps me up at night is that if I were to take these tests, (and actually, I WANT to! I want to know what my numbers are and then have our goal be to get Andy’s as close as possible to mine) they would likely be sitting at 0. My CEA would be 0, my CA19-9 would be 0, my CA125 would be 0 (I wouldn’t have a PCI or CC score as I do not have a disease to track the coverage of or figure the completeness of removal for.) But it tells me that something is off with my husband, and that just makes me feel uneasy.

In other news, my husband went back to work this week! Yep. Day 15 post-op, he went back to work full time. He’s insane! Ha I’m not sure how he’s keeping a clear head while working, I still feel extremely unfocused and I really have to try SO HARD to get into “work mode.” Tho his work is more get-things-done-right-now type of stuff where he’s constantly putting out fires all day. Whereas mine is more strategic thinking and programmatic overhauls where I have to come up with new program lifecycles and consider governance and implementation. So I really need some focused brain power to get into all that thinking, I’m hoping this long weekend (Memorial Day) will help me clear my mind and allow me to get back into things on Tues when the work week starts again. I really need to start focusing back on my work, I have so much I need to make up for! If only my will to WANT to do good work could tell my mind and my heart to FOCUS on the work that needs to be done!

Andy was accepted into the MD Anderson program in Houston, which is AMAZING news! We also cleared these second opinions with the insurance company who said that they would pay for as many second opinions as we wanted. Also good news. I am awaiting Andy’s acceptance into the Memorial Sloan Kettering program in NY, actually, I just called our case worker who confirmed that they had received some of the paperwork and were reviewing it, but they had not received all the paperwork as of yet, so there has not been a determination. Ughhh More waiting. I am hoping to get these appointments made the same week so we can kill two birds with one stone, so to speak. Currently, our appt in Houston is the last Monday in June. That is a bit later than I wanted, but it was the first avail appt with the team we needed to see, so it is what it is. I am also, kind of, (secretly) hoping to use this as a bit of a little vacation for me and Andy. I know that we will be doing testing and that is terrible, but he will begin chemo, likely, the week after that, so he is going to feel like crap for 6 months. This might be a good way to celebrate us and how far we’ve come through this and just take a moment to have some fun before this new reality sets in again. We’ll see.